D6500 3D Resolution NOT FULL HD

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Re: D6500 3D Resolution NOT FULL HD

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I Changed model to D7000 and D8000. In this mode problem not solved. Still same issue for Photo. But for movies there is only green screen of overlay (I think)...

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Re: D6500 3D Resolution NOT FULL HD

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Hmm...justed hoped that samsung disabled something in the 6000 series. Damn.

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Re: D6500 3D Resolution NOT FULL HD

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They definitely will solve the issue. Because
1. This is software problem for me since TV could show FULL HD 3D in theory. So it's easy to fix.
2. If they claim TV cannot show FULL HD 3D due HW issue and don't replace our TVs, this time I believe they probably faced with some legal cases, some one will sue Samsung for committing a fraud since "info" key show 1080p but TV is showing 540p actually... Which means banning of Samsung brands on some country and will heavily damage Samsung brand. I don't believe if they take such a risk...

But I don't know how much time required for they solve the problem. They needed to accept their faults first. I have also some other tricks in my arsenal. Will try them soon too. Don't know if they works...

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Re: D6500 3D Resolution NOT FULL HD

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Alex1971,
Do you have datasheets for ue40d6000 and ua40d6000? Needed to compare tuners.
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Re: D6500 3D Resolution NOT FULL HD

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angerfist1937 wrote:The chip should be a S5PC110 chip but samsung removed the datasheet from their homepage...
Nope, S5PC110 is cellphone/tablet chip. I think D6000 series are based on Samsung SDP1001 SoC.
Overall, there is not much information available about D-Series internals; I only found:
1) D6300 teardown: http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/crac ... 051?seq=39
2) SAMSUNG UE D6000 D61XX D620X D63XX TRAINING MANUAL: http://elektrotanya.com/samsung_ue_d600 ... nload.html

Training manual is hopelessly vague, but page 24 "What is 3D TV" is simply priceless :D

Judging from this 2 sources, D6XXX hardware architecture is somehow simplified in comparison with 3D-cable C-Series models.
I presume 3D & FRC processing in D60XX/D61XX/D62XX/D63XX is done inside SDP1001 only. There is an additional Samsung chip (AMLCD LQFC031T1C-Q2) on T-con board, but no DRAM chips (?), so this is probably just "dumb" timing controller. There is a place for another 3D-related chip on the mainboard (asian version), but it's not soldered.. No extra 3D chip on EU mainboard version.
Do you think samsung can solve this with a firmware?
No idea :(. Perhaps.. Not very likely, IMO.

In any case, that wouldn't be a first time when Samsung crippled down their TV functionality (not necessarily intentionally: bad design/implementation more likely).
E.g.: in B-Series, Samsung is using 4:2:2 YCbCr format internally for processing HDMI sources (i.e.: chroma subsampling in the horizontal direction == half horizontal color resolution), while VGA signal is processed losslessly, in 4:4:4 format. Go figure.. I don't know what kind of funny stuff were they smoking in "SoC R&D Group, Visual Display, Samsung Electronics", but it certainly killed great many brain cells ;).

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