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Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:00 pm
by arris69
erdem_ua wrote:RSA uses asymmetric keys.
We could get 'public' keys which needed for verify package but we need 'secret' keys for signing our package.
but if application was installed to memory before firmware update the update process 'sign' the binaries (with tvs UDN?)
can somebody pls check: are some .mac and .mac.keep files after firmware update in netsurf, samygo or avrfix directory and whats in the file /mtd_tlib/GGame/mac_config_file
also suspect for me why the udn is passed to Main_Game (it is really?) for me looks like the bowling and wiselink ignores it.
tnx
arris
Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:35 pm
by juusso
Could anyone copy all these RSA signed samygo files from tv memory for us? maybe is it possible to run these "copied to memory before 3000.2 fw update scripts" in another tv from the Usb? Are the keys "binded" to the specific tv and each of them has its own key?or there is an universal key?
Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:38 pm
by tiredjoe
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Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:19 pm
by erdem_ua
I am gonna flash 3000.2 soon.

But will leave Telnet Enabler in place (will cross-check)

So If those files are generated, I will put those...
But I insist, Samsung doesn't check utilities at INTERNAL memory but USB instead of generating 'keys'.
Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:43 am
by juusso
Another question. Doesn't samsung plan further support for 6th tv model? If yes, why then new fw doesn't check Usb for upgrade? If i'm going to upgrade next official fw from samsung, how i do it? Does it mean, that the 3000.2 is the last fw?
Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:45 am
by erdem_ua
why then new fw doesn't check Usb for upgrade?
Who said that? It checks but also checks signatures too... And If find wrong/no signature, it doesn't recognize that as a fw... (I insist)
Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:48 pm
by juusso
erdem_ua wrote:Who said that?
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shwed wrote:...1) With FW 3000.2, when start standart FW Upgrade Procedure TV not find any files on USB-Stick.(LED on USB stick not flashing)
I checked,LED on USB blinks just after insertion of USB. It doesn`t blink during fw upgrade command - while tv is looking for "right" fw on USB.
erdem_ua wrote:...3) We can also prepare attack to RSA keys with cloud OpenCL applications....
Realy? im going to spend all resources of my PC 24 hours per day and 7 days per week. I can apply 7 my works PCs to find out solution ...
One problem, i don`t know what exactly i have to do

Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:25 am
by erdem_ua
Might you disassm new exeDSP with IDA

Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:26 am
by juusso
Ok. I am going to start this evening

how long it will take? Approximatly?
Re: Enter to TV with Ex-Link on 3000.2 FW
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:21 pm
by marcelru
Ok. I am going to start this evening

how long it will take? Approximatly?
On my intel core duo 1.3 GHz laptop computer it takes about an hour and a half for the disassembly, then another 20 minutes to write the assembly file (300+ MB). Do switch on demangling of names in IDA, otherwise you will get very strange subroutine names. While you're at it, also have a look at samdrv.ko, the kernel module that drives the tv. You get a new copy with slightly different features with each firmware upgrade. Maybe that kernel module is a good starting point for finding encryption mechanisms. These are typically handled by the kernel.
HTH,
marcelr