SamyGO

I see that in europe vary models are available, for example:

UE46C6000RW UE46C6000RWXBT UE46C6000RWRZF UE46C6000RH UE46C6000RP

I see that for example, UE46C6000RW UE46C6000RWXBT UE46C6000RWRZF has a flash zip image of 34.32M , UE46C6000RH 83.45MB UE46C6000RP 132.21M .

What the reason of different sizes?

The mainboad cpu and flash chips mounted on various versione are the same and only the firmware is different? or the hardware/architecture is different?

I have a UE46C6000RW with a zip image of 34.32M T-VAL6DEUC-1016.0 . I mean that the 132.21M firmware contains more features that can be unlocked compared with my... or no?

I can try to update entire flash to 132M version? or is a suicide?

You can't upgrade to T-Valdeuc if you put it on usb and try to flash it by menu it doesn't work.
T-Valdeuc has the internet at tv and pvr function in it that is because is bigger 131mb.
you can try to do this and write here your result.

i know that are a c6000 model with T-Valdeuc, another c6000 with T-Val6deuc and another c6000 with Msx6deuc
but before you try this you have to find info about your cpu type and the size of rom chip placed on your tv.
The firmware depends on which supplier has been chosen to supply the TV mother Board, so, It could have T-VAL6DEUC or T-MSX6DEUC or T-VALDEUC.
is possible that the hardware are the same and the fw is different but if the rom chip is smaller than the c6000 with t-valdeuc i think isn't impossible do this.

Maybe juuso can help you.

mescall2000 wrote: I can try to update entire flash to 132M version? or is a suicide?

How do you do that?

Do you have bootloader access?

Do you have JTAG to flash the firmware directly?

No?

Than yes, it is suicide.

juuso wrote:

mescall2000 wrote: I can try to update entire flash to 132M version? or is a suicide?

How do you do that?

Do you have bootloader access?

Do you have JTAG to flash the firmware directly?

No?

Than yes, it is suicide.

I have access to a italian support service partner work equipment. This can be enough?

I don't know if when the support service partner can write all (bootloader and other files t othe flash)

I ask him.

k4roshi wrote:European c6000 can either have msx5deuc or val6deuc. Italian c6000's have valdeuc. Firwmares are not interchangeable, msx5deuc and val(6)deuc are for completely different chipsets. Val6deuc and valdeuc have the same chipset and overall structure but the valdeuc fw needs a 1gb flash whereas val6deuc equipped tvs offer only 128mb.

Yes but maybe is possible to flash the t-valdeuc older version that is only 98,9mb version 2004.0, version 2003.0 and 2001.2 are 98,8mb, 1016.0 is 98,5 mb.
all of these are smaller than 128mb so maybe can be flashed on a c6000 with 128mb chip.

According to respective service manual the eeprom are the same
but the nand chip are different...
"IC-EEPROM;24C02,2Kbit,256x8,SOP,8P,5x4mm
IC-EEPROM;24LC02B,256X8BIT,SOIC,8P,3.91X
IC-EEPROM;M24256-BR,256Kbit,32Kx8,SOP,8P"

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/70 ... rpxzt.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83 ... rwxzg.jpg/
part of service manual ue32c6000rwxzg --> http://www.brelect.fr/ve/UE32C6000RWXZG.pdf
service manual ue32c6000rpxzt --> http://www.sendspace.com/file/ljhrxu

someone know if the chip is soldered on the mainboard or if there is a socket? so we can change only the flash chip?

to flash a valdeuc on 128M flash chip, we can simple rip out some data, such images, graphics and so from original firmware. someone is able to mount and r/w to the images of 132M valdeuc? or in a C6XXXrp via a serial debug interface, ad then dump it to a image file...

I think that this is possible...

Sure it has been soleder. I haven't seen any mobo of samy with sockets