web shell

[Spoza]

Just checked i have shell.php wich is webshell and file.php for filemanager on my d6500 so i have both files

As I said, perhaps some inconsistency in SamyGO development over the time...
Again - no (accurate) documentation about this feature (e.g. which models have both and which models have only one and WHY), so people can only guess what's going on in their TVs...

[DEUS]

So how can i install the New web inferface (Webif) for SamyGO?

Please wait for an update, hopefully today.

[arris69]

Apache and webshell does work on my D6900 Mstar.
Can't tell about D5700, though...

The point is that the correct "command" is http://your_TV_IP/phpsysinfo/file.php, not http://your_TV_IP/phpsysinfo/shell.php

Don't know where the "shell.php" came from, maybe some inconsistency in the development?!

simply the file was missed on older versions, no tester reported smth. about, so what...

[Spoza]

simply the file was missed on older versions, no tester reported smth. about, so what...

How is one supposed to know that something is missing? I can't find any documentation about what SHOULD be included in the release.
What does "older versions" mean precisely? How can one tell if his version is "older" or "newer"?

[DEUS]

You have an file version,release and timestamp in your $SYSROOT did which shows your version
Maybe there should be a list with all files and md5 in the docs or somewhere maybe it is, can't check right now

[arris69]

simply the file was missed on older versions, no tester reported smth. about, so what...

How is one supposed to know that something is missing? I can't find any documentation about what SHOULD be included in the release.
What does "older versions" mean precisely? How can one tell if his version is "older" or "newer"?

look at wiki and in forum, i wrote 1000 times in the support threads of extensionspack what is changed but no one read it...
command busybox has find applet too...

we have svn at sourceforge too check commit logs.

but maybe also some "user" can start to give something back to other users and write some documentation what is more "user" friendly and not desigend for devs.

[Spoza]

look at wiki and in forum, i wrote 1000 times in the support threads of extensionspack what is changed but no one read it...

I'm reading the whole D Series forum since December when I got my TV and I haven't seen anything (apart from the few MStar wiki updates you guys did after I personally "pushed" you). I read ALL unread messages in the entire D series forum every day... didn't notice any "extensionspack support thread", where are those?
Actually, it's not even documented anywhere in the D series documentation what "extensions pack" is, I'm only guessing what it might be... Or are we supposed to study the entire SamyGO history starting from A series to find out?

command busybox has find applet too...

What am I supposed to find with it?
How am I supposed to even know that it's there?

we have svn at sourceforge too check commit logs.

You really suppose the USERS to study SVN commit logs? The users don't even know what SVN is...

Anyway, I personally did check SVN commit logs for D series MStar every day at the beginning of this year when I was waiting for "PVR DRM disable" functionality... and even though there was nothing changed in SVN, I was told later in the forum that it's there already for some time (viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3449 about half the page down). So, if changes in the package DO happen without changes being made in SVN, monitoring SVN is not a reliable source for me, sorry.
Or are there any 'secret' places in SVN which we are supposed to be monitoring? How should we know about those places?

but maybe also some "user" can start to give something back to other users and write some documentation what is more "user" friendly and not desigend for devs.

Only developers know what they changed, so only developers can write such documentation.
If developers clearly document places where to get the info from (but it CAN'T be entire forum, sorry), I'm pretty sure someone WILL gladly take care of that task.

[juusso]

Please don't push. OK?
Thanx.

Instead you could "get" your required info and become more and more well with samygo. And then you can give your 2 cents for community by making some good job like some wiki page. Now I just see here you are forcing some kind of talkie talkie. You have already one warning afaik.

I really appreciate your future work for community. Thanks .

[DEUS]

Hey Spoza, maybe you will be a developer earlyer as expected (happen to me and i still don't really know why). When i first posted here, i was not realy happy about the answers.
but when you are searching Infos by yourself and participate it is a nice forum and you will get help. maybe you should open a thread where you post infos for other beginners.
I think USERS are happy with the Functions of TV, if you want more you are not a USER anymore , see my first posts, started here at Christmas 2011, in the same way you did.
Back to Topic do you have webshell now? did you resync the widget? and got webshell then?

[Spoza]

juuso:
I'm not pushing, I'm just trying to show you some things which may not be obvious to you because you take them as default (by they are NOT default to other people).
I would surely like to create some wiki, but as I said, this has to be done by someone with COMPLETE knowledge, because incomplete knowledge and/or information is useless for normal non-dev/non-Linux people.
I think I already did give back, e.g. by helping Ramses to debug the SamyGO PVR Manager (maybe you find it not too helpful because it's not directly related to TV hacking, but I'm pretty sure that lot of user actually appreciate it) or helping sisternicky with testing the DeSTRoi tool. And now I'm ready to test and give feedback to the web interface to DEUS...

DEUS:
Don't worry, I tried Linux several times over the years, but it's too different from what I'm used to from the DOS/Win world...
A well, yeah, if you take DOS/Win batch scripting as development, then I may be a developer in the end... .
Regarding the USERS - what I mean by this word are users who come to this forum... they are definitely those grandmas happily using just what they got in the box, they are simply demanding more from their TV, they looked for the info and they came here... but still they are not developers...
Anyway, back to the topic - I didn't need any webshell, I already found it some months ago . In this thread I was just giving advice to brunogts77 about the webshell and correcting what juuso wrote about apache.